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MandyB's avatar

I’m always amazed at how many people I’ve forgotten. There was a girl in high school, Josie, who everyone but me remembered. We had a get together at my best friend’s house in Wiltshire a while back but I couldn’t place her or summon her memory at all. I was familiar with her name - but not with her. I know we hung out in a group and maybe in a pair yet I have zero memories of her. It is the strangest thing. Great column. Patti.

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Patti Petersen's avatar

Thank you, Mandy! A couple summers ago I went to a party in my home town. There were a few there I'd gone to school with... almost 50 years ago. One got offended because I didn't remember she'd gotten pregnant in high school! I'm telling you that era is really hard for me to remember. I didn't graduate from there, maybe that was why.

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Mona Shepard's avatar

So ironic that you should send out this good read because I’d been having this Jayne thing bothering me for a week or so. I’ve come to expect and accept that the very, very few people I know as friends or are on my Facebook that are Republicans are holdovers from decades of friendship. Truly though you can have decades long relationships with people that in reality they are not your friends they may really only be and ever were coworkers. Beauticians, hairdressers, maids that clean your house, coworkers etc. are not your friends. I went through my cell phone contacts ( you see contacts not friends) yes you too can say it, and they were boggling down my scrolling. I gave those people I didn’t want to eliminate just in case I may need to contact them a designation of zero. I know it sounds so bad. It’s first name and then last name written as Zero. Theirs about 50 of them relegated to the bottom of the contacts list. Not that I want to get rid of these friends/ coworkers because I may want to contact them at some time and need the number. Just not bogging down contacts list. I’ve done the same to Facebook. Those people I want to share my communications to automatic are in that file and then most of the people are in the “ don’t post anything on my page) file. I respect that. They don’t want recipes and songs, history, politics and whatever else I send out to bog down their Facebook. Also those people I still have left that don’t appreciate my sharing of intelligent interesting knowledge I have of politics that aren’t their political view. I’ve restricted that. Just tell me you don’t want any politics shared because that’s not your view and I’m fine either way that. Just because we have different political views doesn’t mean I don’t want to be friends with. I’m good with that, I can tolerate this in a person and it’s ok. Just tell me, we can still be friends with decades long good memories of great times spent together. I would never ever remove you and block you. I value my friendships. I worked with Jayne on the ships. She’s English and when we all quit the ships 30 years ago she moved to the USA with her boyfriend also English and they got two Americans to marry them so they could get free cards to work. Very illegal I might add. Boyfriend is no longer in the picture. We were friendly on the ships but it was take it or leave it really. She was a cashier in the casino at the time. She was on my Facebook but relegated to that “ don’t post on my site please” and like I said I’m ok with that. We went hiking a couple of times as a big hiking group and about ten years or so I saw her at the Cosmo where works on the floor and stopped to say hi. We were never close like friends barely coworkers on the ships. I never shared anything with her on Facebook all these years of Trump derangement that occurred the first time and now the second time. I always figured her for a liberal. Anyway I respected her wish and never once posted anything to her. She wrote on the page of a mutual friend that she was moving back to England this summer so I congratulated her and very pleasantly said it was so nice to go home. Strange though here’s a person that for decades I don’t hear from and twice she sent me some vile, snide comment about Trump. She had to go out of her way to do that. Why? I didn’t make any comment I just let it go. Then she sends me again a thing about TESLA something joyful and hahaha about people destroying his cars. The comments were gleeful and hateful. Hateful, that’s full of hate that’s what that means. Oh the intolerance of the tolerant. I figured I’d better respond now. I just commented I find it ironic that before Trump, Elon Musk was the lefts golden boy, their Green darling and now he’s no longer environmentally worthy. He’s a bad guy? Jayne unfriended me and blocked me. Here I am minding my own business for decades with no contact from her and now she decides to communicate with me. What do I realize from this? I was never her friend. I was somebody she knew on the ships and like so many people that I knew that I didn’t continue an association with she was and should have remained one of those people in the island photograph that you just can’t remember her name.

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Patti Petersen's avatar

The going out of the way part is what bothers me. I mind my own business with maybe a comment or a share and all hell breaks loose. Which is what happened during that week. You're spot on. Friends are different than acquaintances. And work people are for the most part just that, except in my particular instance I make it a point to stay in touch with those I socialized with, and there were many that I cherish to this day as friends.

As far as different political views I do not understand why this affects friendship, unless of course you're badgering or belittling. It becomes an issue then.

I'm not big on people sharing random stuff on my wall, remember our old pal Susan D? She posted some vile stuff back in the day and I had to first mute, then block. Of course there was history, as you know, but for me, it doesn't give the right to get nasty on "social media" if this is in fact what we use it for. I'm really close to pulling the plug on it for good. I shut it down for a few months last year and didn't miss it a bit. Someone got married and I knew the only way I'd see pictures was to look at FB. Now I get correspondence and thank you's through messenger. Never mind the written invitation or letter (though I have a few who still do this).

And as far as the Tesla thing... remember the BLM riots? Who participates in this sort of thing? I rest my case.

I came across a picture this week taken on a crap game I was dealing. I was on the stick, and one of the dice dealer's decided to take the picture, then he jumped overboard and had to be rescued by the crew (this was the cruise to nowhere days in St. Petersburg). I couldn't remember his name, but I remember he was handcuffed to the bar stool for the rest of the cruise until he was hauled off to the clink. His name wasn't that important but that cruise was hilarious. I nicknamed him Bud Light Bob, he was always drunk when he came on the night cruise.

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Christina Piccoli's avatar

This would be an interesting thing to do - go through my Facebook friends. I already know that 90% of them aren't real friends. A lot of them are co-workers who I barely remember. (I have a terrible memory when it comes to people.) Many of them I met online through affiliate marketing. I don't have anyone with a panty nickname though, I'm sure of that. haha

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Patti Petersen's avatar

As you get older you wil come across somebody, or one just like her, haha. Most of my friends are past co-workers and from school but I really do keep in touch with them. I keep the doors open, one never knows. Not to mention that life is short so as we age and lose those along the way it's really nice to stay in touch with those we love and like.

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Mary Beth's avatar

This. Was. A. Great. Article!! I loved it, Patti! There are people who come into your life for a reason, a season, or those who end up staying for many seasons. I’m SO HAPPY that there is a season for me!

think I’ll purge my fb list as well now! I would accept “friend” requests from people in my life from long ago, why? I don’t really know them now and I certainly don’t care what they are doing! I felt bad to not accept their request, at 67 years old one would think that I’d just have the power to click “No.” I have unfollowed several people on account of TDS, maybe it’s time to just let them go. Several from HS that I have not spoken to in years! I DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR OPINION! Another two are “friends” from Canada that we met in Florida who just can’t deal with the fact that President Trump got elected by me and 77 million other Americans. And I really did think of them as friends as we did get together throughout the years NOT in Florida. However, they did not come to Florida this year as part of the Canadian “boycott.” We don’t even talk politics when they’re here! They don’t even live here and they still go berserk. Maybe my red Trump 2020 solo cup that I bring to our get togethers put them over the edge, and I did cross out the last 0 in 2020 last year and wrote in a 4😂 Perhaps it was my comment to Phil on his latest raging anti Trump post where he wanted all of his Canadian and American “friends” to post the numbers he had of Mexicans and Canadians bringing fentanyl over the U.S . border. The numbers he posted were minimal, but I didn’t see Canada opening their borders welcoming in even one! My kid died from Fentanyl, and I’ll be happy to talk numbers with Phil when his kid has died the same way. I think I’m getting worked up because there still are several Canadians down here spewing out their hatred for our President. This is what I tell them, “GO HOME!!” Find a nice little Florida somewhere in Canada where little girls can be in bathrooms with men and leave the rest of us, who actually lived through 4 years of absolute horror with the last Administration, in peace.

Going to the pool now😂 I got off topic. It’s your fault, Patti!🤣 I’ll be home soon. Love you!🩷

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Patti Petersen's avatar

There are some people who just "get it." You're one of those people. I might want to borrow that solo cup for our next gathering. I'm sure it'll get a rise out of somebody.

I'm surprised the Canadian snow birds are squawking. Life is too short. Fun in the sand and sea should be all anyone cares about while visiting in the sunshine state.

I'm currently watching a show on how Fentanyl is coming across the borders from both north and south. It's overwhelmingly indescribable. Even touching a package with dust can kill you. Patrick is proof, along with millions of others who are losing their lives from what's being brought in from the lack of transparency and protection. No mother or father should have to lose their kid. It's a loss so tragic, that unless you experience it, you can't imagine or feel it. I think those who are now in charge are seeing up close and personal what's been going on, and now they're trying to stop or at least get a better grip on it.

Get home soon, I'm tired of staring at your closed garage door, waiting for you and Dolly to come out and play. Love you.🥰

(And thank you for such a great response, it really hit home.)

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Lisa Lee Mills's avatar

This was wholly entertaining - the nicknames were funny and the stories were relatable. I feel like I know at least one of the people you’ve described! Thank you.

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Patti Petersen's avatar

Thank you Lisa. I think this happens as we age, haha.

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Bob Waldman's avatar

If you lost two friends over your controversial opinion, maybe it's time to take a hard look at why you feel that way.

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Patti Petersen's avatar

Should my opinions change to keep people happy? It really wasn't an opinion. It was a share of a photo that accompanied an article of something done nice for someone, that was it. But thanks for reading and commenting. I can depend on you to make me think, anyway.

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Christina Piccoli's avatar

No, you should not! People I know post things all the time I don't agree with. I just keep on scrolling... :)

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Patti Petersen's avatar

Haha, you're the best!

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Stephanie's avatar

Bob, what an interesting comment. This world is made up of different opinions without it… we would have quite a boring world. I think as women we sometimes can take things to heart. People since the craziness in the world have become so quick to do this cancel culture bullshit. I don’t like what you said so let me show you , and they leave nasty comments or unfriend. Like why can’t people be adults and have normal convos about difference of opinions. Quite frankly Patti doesn’t need to look at why she feels anyway, her “friends” showed her exactly who they are and to people like that we say don’t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!

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Carl Petersen's avatar

If they are true friends,differing opinions should not ruin a friendship.

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Patti Petersen's avatar

Exactly.

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Bob Waldman's avatar

True! The world would be boring if we were all the same. As you said, her friends showed her exactly who they are. So instead of the door hitting them on the way out, maybe there's a conversation (external and internal) to be had instead.

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Patti Petersen's avatar

This is the core of mostly any issue today—thoughtful conversation rarely exists online. Typically I stay quiet and scroll on... this was my particular share on my own wall so who did it hurt? Apparently the two that judged had no desire to converse except to spew and unfriend. It was a one-sided convo.

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Patti Petersen's avatar

Agree! (With almost all of it.) 😜

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Daria Diaz's avatar

This is great, Patti! I was very anti-FaceBook until a few years ago. I opened an account so I could see pictures of my nieces and nephews and keep up with what's going on in their lives a bit. When I started health coaching, I posted mostly for business-ish reasons. I don't have many FB friends--it's mostly family with some friends, but all of more recent vintage. Most people from my youth would never even find me because I changed my name when I got married. I'd like to think I could still remember most people, but I'm sure if actually put to the test, there would be quite a few I've forgotten.

Here's a trick I use when I can't remember someone's name and I'm with my husband or a friend. I introduce them. Then the other person usually says, "Nice to meet you Bob. I'm Marcus." It doesn't work every time, but more often than not it does.

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Patti Petersen's avatar

Thank you Daria, and I'll try that trick! It's so embarrassing for me to stammer, hem and haw when most of the time I just have to 'fess up and ask. Ugh.

I would think for health coaching FaceBook would be a great resource. I know when I was health coaching I was able to connect with a few clients. It's a great place to network for certain businesses. Lately when I sign up for an online course inevitably they have a group that goes along with the program. After this last course I'm taking that'll be it. It's really a time thing. I don't have extra to dilly dally and that's what happens.

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Daria Diaz's avatar

I tend to take courses. Part of it is my love of learning and my quest to have as much knowledge as possible to be a better coach/trainer/fitness professional. But, it is a lot of time that I could spend really coaching and helping people. For me, I think it may be another form of procrastination, albeit a somewhat productive and positive one.

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Janice Walton's avatar

I thought friends accepted friends as they were - if not, maybe they weren't truly friends.

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Patti Petersen's avatar

Since 2016 I believe is no longer the case. I was under that same impression you were until last summer. It started for me, back then. I had no idea I would be judged for what or who I believe in, especially from friends. I'm almost certain this is more of an online thing these days. Luckily, the few I consider to be special and who may or may not agree with me still show love and support, and for me there is nothing better I could ever ask for.

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Carl Petersen's avatar

Oh. My. Mrs Petersen you did a masterful job of explaining what we all good through in the latter years. I have times myself when names and experiences get jumbled. Enjoyed your masterful explanation. Love you.

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Patti Petersen's avatar

Haha, yours is coming, honey. Thank you for reading and sharing. Love you.

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Shlee's avatar

I'm the same, though, Patti. I'll never forget a face or a conversation or how I know someone. But names? Names are so HARD. I need to start making up nicknames in my head to make it a little easier haha

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Patti Petersen's avatar

Haha, I do it naturally. I don't know why. It can be funny but it can also be kind of disrespectful but of course the latter is only in my head when I don't really like someone.

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Shlee's avatar

I've never had a Facebook account but I can only imagine haha! Love all the nicknames! Now it's time to assign yourself a nickname, too-- so it's fair ;)

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Patti Petersen's avatar

When I was a kid my nickname was "Bucky Beaver" because I had buck teeth. Then later on it was "Chatty Cathy" because I talked too much in school... later on I nicknamed myself "Peppermint Patti." One night in a bar someone asked me if I was a stripper what would I be called, haha, that, and Peppermint Patties are my favorite candy!

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